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struebs



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: rear leafs up front Reply with quote

dose anyone run stock rear leafs up front? just wondering how much lift this will give me? i have a extra set and would like to do it. and then i will put blocks or shackels in the back depending on how high the front is. the blocks would be a temp thing till i can get my hands on some 63" chevy springs.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you use a completely stock set and dont add any leafs and have a v6 3.0 they will have a negative arch to them...found that out way back when i did my sas the first time.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think id only get 2inches of lift with stock 96 2wd rears... i added 2 leaves from my old lift springs to beef them up.

maybe get 3inches out of a health self of 4x4 rears
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only have a 4 banger and i will be using 4x4 rear leafs and blocks in the back. are there any other parts that will need to be replaced i would think i have to do something with the brake lines?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

longer brake lines or u can cut off the brackets were the hardline softline meet... and weld them back on to the frame lower and bend the hardlines to accommodate...

also u should get some longer travel shocks with 2 inch blocks in the rear of my 81 i was able to put 10 inchers out back. To fit 10 inch travel shocks up front i had to cut the top off my front shock towers and build new mounts off the old towers...... ummm aboot 4 inches taller than stock

the stock shocks were 6 inch travel up front and 7 out back
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey troy thanx for the info. im gonna start after work.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i got the rear leafs in the front. they went in easy the old stock ones were a bit of a bitch to get out. got 4.5 to 5 inches of lift went from 37" from the grount to thr top of the wheel well to 42". but the axle sits 2 inches farther to the front because the bolt that hold the leafs together is in the way. can i notch the hole on the axle or should i drill a new hole.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how many leaves do u have in the packs? u can re-drill the center bolt hole in the perch 1.5 back... moving the axle ahead is a good thing... keeps ur tires out of ur fenders but if it messes with ur push-pull steering

they will probably settle a bit one u drive on them... lol i never thought used springs would but in my experience they doooo

wait... ummm u still have the stock style ubolts right? maybe u can only drill an inch back... measure and check it out
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got new bolts. so i can drill a new hole in the leafs? the drag link hits the ubolts it just hits if it wasnt on such an angle it would pass by. if i put the axle in the stock spot it will work. and where the axle is now the shocks will not bolt in.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont drill holes in ur springs... they will break
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats what i was thinkin to thats why i asked again. so can i notch the hole
that is in the plate on the axle or should i drill a new hole?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drill a new one
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TROY wrote:
dont drill holes in ur springs... they will break



i dont believe this at all..... perhaps in a spring pack that has previous problems with the metal rusting too much in the spring pin area making it thin or if your spring plates arent tight and there is too much movement in the spring pin area then perhaps you can have a problem..

i have drilled a new hole in my main leaf of my spring pack many many times over the years so i can gain an extra couple of inches wheelbase and have never had a problem...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you drilled a new hole in the main leaf and moved the rest ?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fj-rankenstein wrote:
TROY wrote:
dont drill holes in ur springs... they will break



i dont believe this at all..... perhaps in a spring pack that has previous problems with the metal rusting too much in the spring pin area making it thin or if your spring plates arent tight and there is too much movement in the spring pin area then perhaps you can have a problem..

i have drilled a new hole in my main leaf of my spring pack many many times over the years so i can gain an extra couple of inches wheelbase and have never had a problem...


I have to agree with jp. As long as all of your holes in your springs are sandwiched between your ubolt plate and your perch, they are never moving and never flexing to cause the spring to break at the hole location.

First thing I would do is drill new holes 1-1.5" away on your perches and if thats not enough to clear things than drill a new hole in the main leaf.
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