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Beatz89



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Front driveshaft problems Reply with quote

So my front driveshaft is in need of u joints and that lil ball but when I rebuild this I'm wondering what I can do to make it more durable and if there is a possible interchangeable driveshaft from a newer model pickup, it would be nice to have a spare. I have 8" diffs to my knowledge , 79 pickup. Thanks In advance
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think there is a rebuild kit available for a first gen double cardan anymore.. i know the ball assembly itself is not an item you can get on its own.. the toyota dealership doesnt even have a part number for it but they would be glad to sell you an entire new front driveshaft for about 1000 bucks!!... the ujoints can still be got though..

it would be expensive but if you went with a driveshaft from a 1984-1995 toyota you can make it work by buying new tripple drilled flanges for your front third member and your front t-case output with the proper flange bolt pattern from one of the big aftermarket dealers like Marlin Crawler, Trailgear or inchworm.. then of course none of these driveshafts are the right length so you would pay to either get a shaft lengthened or shortened.. probably be an expensive bill in the end depending on how much you can get the driveshaft work done for..

and yes you sure have 8"diffs... i thought i had a spare driveshaft that i could sell you that was in good shape but i cant seem to find it at the moment..
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one for sale from a 91
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could just get flanges off a new truck and put them on your truck... dont need to buy new...

and frankly... you dont need the double cardan in the front... you will be fine if you get a driveshaft made with just normal u joints
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we have the rebuild kits available to rebuild your stock shaft ..
ball kits and u-joints
not on the site , you have to call or email
http://www.toyotafiberglass.com

just check your shaft splines for wear first



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where are you getting the ball kits from slacker??
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

properitor secret ..
we have em , and they fit .. I have been using them for 30 years






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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can get them from southerland automotive and probably napa
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TROY wrote:
probably



yep .. probably



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like napa can get them.. i got this on Ih8mud but the info is everywhere if you google it.. i had a bitch of a time trying to find the right part 15 years ago but looks like there is lots of aftermarket support now..





"Toyota used two different u-joints on the front double cardan driveshafts between '79-'95. On the slip-yoke end (and both ends of a single-piece rear shaft) the joint used is Precision #513. On the CV end the two joints used are Precision #387.

Toyota also used two different size CV ball kits. Precision #614 fits the CV w/3.070" H yoke u-joint center and .513" ball stud, and Precision #613 fits the CV w/2.813" H yoke u-joint center and .467" ball stud. According to RD's interchange, Precision Kit #613 fits '79-'84 Toyotas while Precision Kit #614 fits the '85-'95 shafts. But I'd measure them first before ordering... just to be sure. "
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slacker wrote:
TROY wrote:
probably



yep .. probably



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yes......
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My driveshaft that I run in the front of my 91 4runner was a hybrid shaft that I made myself. I took the longer solid axle driveshaft and removed the double cardon off of it and installed the clearanced double cardon from my 91 4runner.

So my final driveshaft looked as follows.

At the Tcase it was 91 4runner flange, 91 4runner Double Cardon clearanced at the ball....then from the ball to the axle it was all solid axle shaft components.

Never had any problems with swapping over. the cardon to the solid axle shaft. The ujoints seemed to be the same size and part number.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have the correct u joints but I can't seem to find the correct ball kit, I have purchased both size and neither fit one is too big to fit I the hole and the other is too small, do I have some crazy frankenshaft stuff goin on? Cause I'm thinking so, may have to build myself a custom shaft or any recommendations on a driveline shop to go to In stoon to get one built
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beatz89 wrote:
Well I have the correct u joints but I can't seem to find the correct ball kit, I have purchased both size and neither fit one is too big to fit I the hole and the other is too small, do I have some crazy frankenshaft stuff goin on? Cause I'm thinking so, may have to build myself a custom shaft or any recommendations on a driveline shop to go to In stoon to get one built


It is possible you have an aftermarket shaft.
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